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Handguns / Re: pet revolver loads
« Last post by beowulf on June 05, 2020, 10:35:50 AM »
I`ve owned two brass frame 51 navy colts , one was from the very early 1960`s  and the other the 1980`s  , other than a patina , on the older much used colt they were pretty much in the same condition , everything was tight ,nothing tended to rattle , and both were as accurate  as bill hickcok, would have wanted ! I`ve never had a revolver get loose from shooting ! not sure you can get enough powder in the chambers to do that ! 
Handguns / Re: pet revolver loads
« Last post by William on June 04, 2020, 09:16:40 PM »
I own several BP revolvers in both steel and brass frames. Lately I have been experimenting with my brassers and trying different powder charges and powder types as well as projectile types all in an effort to find an optimum load that  serves well power wise without battering the brass frames. I've worked out what I think are nice compromise loads that offer good energy and velocity without damaging the frames. Just curious what others have worked out with their brass framed revolvers.

Back in my CAS days I had 5 '58 Remington's, 2 SS, "Sheriff" models, 2 blued Sheriff models and one regular length barrel, blued. The 4 with short barrels were Piettas and the long barreled one was made by Armani San Marco, or ASM for short. I tried a variety of powders, pellets and grain sizes and this is when I learned to hate Pyrodex and Clean Shot as well as anything made into pellets.  It was also when I overcame my fear of the Holy Black and became a believer, so here's my pet load.  First of all, use 3F of any traditional black powder.  I prefer Goex made by Goex.  I did not get the best accuracy using Goex that had been rebranded as another suppliers powder, which is Goex without a graphite coating. No, I don't know why but with Goex brand I don't have to worry or try different loads.  23 grains of Goex 3f is a mild but very accurate load out of my 1858 Remingtons. Keep in mind that all but one of my C&B revolvers had action jobs, which may or may not affect the way someone else shoots their revolvers. A two handed, aimed shot it different from a one handed gunfighter style 5 shot series.  However, I think that having a load that groups extremely well when shot two handed should be the best when shooting gunfighter, dualist or similar multi shot competition.  Keep in mind that using good, reliable caps is important as well.  Lastly, I know several folks who put hundreds if not thousands of full power loads through their brass framed revolvers without them ever getting stretched or loosened up.  One the same note, the Confederate states never produced brass framed Remingtons because of material shortages, so don't believe that line of marketing BS.

I hope that helps and you have fun shooting safely.
Anouncement's. / Re: Checking in
« Last post by William on June 04, 2020, 08:49:49 PM »
I will take our canine brother at his word. He may not check back in, but all he has to do is get ahold of ANY of us if he needs anything.

Anouncement's. / Re: A prayer for today.
« Last post by William on June 04, 2020, 08:47:15 PM »
Well put.
Birthdays and Anniversarys / Re: Happy Birthday DandJofAZ !
« Last post by William on June 04, 2020, 08:45:20 PM »
Glad to hear that you are coming back strong.  Happy 70th!
Birthdays and Anniversarys / Re: Happy Birthday DandJofAZ !
« Last post by DandJofAZ on June 04, 2020, 07:40:42 PM »
Amazing!!  Never thought I would see 70.  Planted big garden, but caring for it is almost more than I can do.  Sure getting my burn compression appliances really dirty.  PT professionals tell me 2 years and a surgery or two and I will be all better.  Burned friend says I will hardly notice it in about three years.  Just have to live that long without doing something else foolish or letting cancer get on top of me.  Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers.
General Gunsmithing / Re: coning a barrel?
« Last post by Dogshirt on June 04, 2020, 07:26:52 PM »
I have HEARD that it doesn't effect accuracy. But I have HEARD many things, most of which is  bs. That being said, I would NEVER consider it. YMMV
Anouncement's. / Re: A prayer for today.
« Last post by DandJofAZ on June 04, 2020, 07:17:48 PM »
Sounds good for being isolated in place.  May just put whiskey in my coffee.
General Gunsmithing / Re: coning a barrel?
« Last post by beowulf on June 04, 2020, 05:41:19 PM »
been shooting round ball in every caliber from .36 to .69 , and quit using a ball starter a very long time ago !
General Gunsmithing / Re: coning a barrel?
« Last post by Hanshi on June 04, 2020, 03:10:33 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of us would like to know more about this process.  While I've never had any interest in coning any of my barrels, I have done something to mine that allows me to seat and shoot tight prb combos.  It has also allowed me to shoot as long as I want without swabbing the bore and with no change in accuracy.  Using the thumb and sandpaper, one can "polish" and "round" the barrel crown so there's no longer any sharp ends of the lands at the muzzle.  It rarely takes over half an hour and stops patches from being torn when started into the muzzle.  Best of all only about 1/8" of the muzzle end is relieved.

Tight loads are usually the most accurate.  In my .36, for example, I load a .35" and a .024" canvas patch.  Each time the load is seated it wipes the previous shots fouling down to the breech; every single time.  Bore diameter is .36 + .012" + .012" = .3840".  Ball is .350 + .024" + .024" = .3980 for the prb.  So .3980" minus .3840" = .014" patch compression in the grooves.  It still takes a short starter for me but then I have ra in my hands.  Once started the prb goes down easily enough to use the wood ramrod; no need for a "range rod".  If there's any interest I'll post the process.

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